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Nick Daschel

Nick Daschel is a veteran sports writer and columnist who has worked on the West coast for nearly three decades. Nick has covered the Pac-10 for about 15 years, primarily focusing on the Northwest schools.

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Pac-10: Playing The Rose Bowl Percentages

Pac-10: Playing The Rose Bowl Percentages

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:35 PM
Posted By: Nick Daschel
In: Pac-10

Because of their clear path to the Rose Bowl, it is assumed that Oregon and Arizona are the Pac-10 frontrunners. Neither team depends on another team to open the door to Pasadena. Just win out, and they’re in.

 

But is sweeping the remaining games the most likely outcome? We’ll take a crack at playing the percentages here, using Buster Math 101:

 
Oregon

Nov. 21 at Arizona: The Ducks are a 6-point favorite for this game, and I happen to think that’s about right. Either team could win, but Oregon is a little more balanced and more explosiveness to its offense. Chance of winning: 60 percent

 

Dec. 3 Oregon State: Even though it’s the Civil War – you know, where they throw out the records – it’s hard to believe the Ducks won’t be at least a 10-point favorite. Oregon has won its four Pac-10 home games by margins of 39, 46, 27 and 23 points.

No team had a harder time stopping the Ducks’ offense a year ago than Oregon State. You’d have to think the Beavers will be better this time around, but it probably won’t be enough in the caustic atmosphere that is Autzen. Chance of winning: 80 percent

 

Odds this happens: .6 x .8 = 48 percent

 

There is also this scenario: Oregon loses to Arizona (40 percent), beats OSU (80 percent), Stanford loses to Cal (25 percent) and Arizona losing to either Arizona State or USC (75 percent). Odds this happens: .4 x .8 x .25 x .75 = .06

 

Oregon’s Rose Bowl odds: 54 percent

 
Oregon State

Nov. 21 at Washington State: Nothing short of a team-wide bout of food poisoning keeps the Beavers from winning this game. The Cougars are that inept. Chance of winning: 100 percent.

 

Dec. 3 at Oregon: As described above, the Beavers are good enough to have a fighting chance against the Ducks in Autzen, but after last year, you’d have to think it’s an uphill battle. Chance of winning: 20 percent

 

OSU’s Rose Bowl odds: 1.0 x .2 = 20 percent

 
Stanford

Nov. 21 California: Rock USC on the road, and you get noticed. Better yet if it comes the week after bludgeoning Oregon. The Bears have owned this series of late, but Stanford has never been this good. Chance of winning: 80 percent

 

The Cardinal also need: Arizona beats Oregon (40 percent), Oregon beats OSU (80 percent), Arizona loses to either ASU or USC (75 percent).

 

Stanford’s Rose Bowl odds: .8 x .4 x .8 x .75 = 19 percent

 
Arizona

Nov. 21 Oregon: The last time a sophomore quarterback outside of USC led a Pac-10 team to the Rose Bowl? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Big games in November are tough to win without a seasoned quarterback. Chance of winning: 40 percent

 

Nov. 28 at Arizona State: Win or lose against Oregon, the Wildcats are sure to be favored. But Arizona hasn’t had a lot of success in its rivalry game of late, winning only two of the past seven, and losing its last three in Tempe. Chance of winning: 50 percent

 

Dec. 5 at USC: This one is hard to tab, because USC may be in a mail-it-in state of mind if it somehow loses to UCLA. But we’ll assume the Trojans will get up for the Bruins and win. Chance of winning: 20 percent

 

Arizona’s Rose Bowl odds: .4 x .5 x .2 = 4 percent

 

Something incredibly wacky happens: 3 percent (fixed).

 

Nick Daschel covers the Pacific-10 Conference for Buster Sports, and can be reached at ndaschel@bustersports.com

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Comments

On Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 2:37 PM
Towel Boy says:
Shouldn't the overall chances of SOMEONE going to the Rose Bowl equal 100% ? Probably should adjust "Something Incredibly Wacky Happens" to 3%.
On Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 7:17 PM
Suckit says:
Under the "There is also this scenario" for Oregon, you list Stanford losing to Cal as a 25% probability. For Stanford's scenario, you give them an 80% chance of wining. One of these numbers should be adjusted (and the resulting odds).

Secondly, OSU winning out doesn't guarantee a RB berth. If UA wins out (admittedly an unlikely proposition), the outcome of the Civil War doesn't matter since UA wins the tie-breaker over OSU. Thus, their odds are slightly less than 20%.
On Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 8:37 PM
Suckit says:
Also, under the "There is also this scenario" for Oregon, you list UA losing one of the last two as a 75% proposition. For UA, though, you list the odds of winning those games as 50% and 20%. That means they only have a 10% chance of winning both, or a 90% chance of losing one or more.

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